Is it possible to make a copy of HIP smart card CMLQ 863 without access to barrier system?

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#1

Hi there,
I have HIP barrier system and smart card model CMLQ 863. According to specification found on different web-sites, this card uses a frequency of 433 MHZ (Bluetooth) to work.
Is it possible to make a copy of this card to emulate by Flipper later without access to barrier system?
Or is there only one way - I need to intercept signal between this card and barrier system and try emulate later?

Maybe someone successfully work with such type of barrier system (global search by card name shows nothing on this forum)?

Some links with photos of this card.

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/easy-card-hip-cmlq-863-cr2032-copy-i1904350986-s5995406481.html

#2

Looking at random websites offering this stuff, the barriers have multiple options for tags but they all seem to be Wiegand 26 Bit output and the 433mhz barriers seem to offer keeloq remotes, so i would guess keeloq?

#3

Hm, I think that it may be passive UHF RFID tag which is working on 433 MHz. As I understand, Flipper can’t work with such protocol?

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#4

Just thinking out loud here.

Let’s assume all above is correct. I wonder how it interrogates the tag. Could someone write a fap for that possibly. Could the hardware support it?

I think we would need extra hardware. I think the Flipper could activate the tag but not detect the feedback.

Could a different device activate the tag and Flipper detect the feedback?

Could we use the Flipper to record the conversation between the tag and a reader?

#5

Yeah, a rtl-usb dongle is worth the extra 30 bucks to capture while playing around on other things, same with the esp, having some other capturing cards around can be very handy to see what you are actually sending and what reactions , preferable capturing on another machine so you do not have local noise interaction on diffrent devices , laptop without power cable sometimes gives a cleaner noise floor if you do not have to worry about noisy power supplies and connected usb hubs connecting them.